We
welcome enquiries and comments: please contact the archivist preferably
by email, or by post to The College, Walsingham, Norfolk NR22 6EF. The following enquiries have been received since the site was launched in July 2005: the most recent appear first. Comments added later, that elaborate or correct a previous answer, are in bold italic: our thanks to everyone who enquires and everyone who contributes additional details. |
for
a list of the subjects covered, click
here |
| Q62: What was the Shrine's connection with the Boy Scout movement in the early days that caused Fr Patten to call St George's Chapel the Scouts' Chapel? | |
| A: It is not clear how the Scout connection started: the first Scouts in evidence in photographs were the Stepney Scouts who lined the procession to the Halifax Altar at the 1933 Centenary Mass and presumably they were brought to Walsingham by a priest from Stepney. When the new Shrine Church was built, each chapel was assigned not only a dedication of a Mystery and one or more Saints, but was also earmarked by Fr Patten for chantries and organisations. In the case of the latter, the body was usually expected to furnish and maintain its chapel. The first mention of the Scouts' Chapel is in Our Lady's Mirror 1937 Winter Number. Photographs of scouts standing on the site of their Chapel appear in Fr Patten's albums, and they led the 1938 procession. Girl Guides were soon included in the title. After 1938 there are no mentions until 1944, when this chapel is earmarked for Scouts and the Sanctuary School (which had its own troop). After the Sanctuary School closed, the dedication passed to Quainton Hall School. | |
| Q61: When did the Shrine acquire the charming statue of King Charles I? | |
| A: Fr Patten himself gave it to the Shrine church soon after the church was opened: it was blessed on 29 January 1939. | |
| Q60: When was the Sisters' present Priory built? | |
| A: It was built during 1955; the Sisters had to wait until 1956 to take up residence, until the new village sewerage system was working. | |
| Q59: From guide books and postcards it is obvious that the statues on either side of the Altar of the Annunciation have been changed over the last twenty or more years. When was the statue of Richeldis, holding the Holy House, added and that of St Dominic transferred to the other side? | |
| A: The statue of Lady Richeldis started life (date uncertain) as that of St Bernadette of Lourdes, holding a candle. The statue was repainted and the candle removed; the Holy House was carved by Percy Yabsley, a local carpenter who did many woodworking jobs for the Shrine. Richeldis was placed on the left hand side of the entrance porch as welcoming visitors. At one time a visitors' book was placed in front of the statue. In about 1983 or 1984 the statue was repainted and moved to its present position in the Chapel , displacing St Dominic, who had been there for many years. St Dominic was moved away, but was soon returned at the request of the Order of the Living Rosary of Our Lady and St Dominic. | |
| Q58: Where did the small piece of stained glass in the South Cloister (which looks much older than the Shrine Church is) come from? | |
| A: This glass, the last in the windows when walking along the Cloister towards the Shrine Church altar end, was given to the Shrine Church by Fr Colin Gill in May 1982 on his retirement after nine years as Master of the Guardians. All that is known about it is that it is Flemish, and depicts Our Lady of Sorrows. | |
| Q57: What is the history of the large sculpture in the new Refectory? | |
| A: This is entitled The Wedding Feast at Cana and was created by the Cardozo Kindersley Workshop in Cambridge. It measures 9 ft by 7 ft and is carved out of Portland stone. The figures are set against a background of the Roman lettering for which this workshop is famous. | |
| Q56: When I first stayed at the Shrine in the sixties I remember that in the Shrine sacristy was a box containing the Abbot's crook which had belonged to Fr Ignatius of Llanthony. From memory, this relic became an embarrassment to the Shrine, and I never saw it again. Is this relic still at the Shrine ? If not, what happened to it ? | |
| A: Our Lady's Mirror Spring Number 1932 records the gift of the staff to the Shrine, and we have added a note there about the further donation to the Ignatius Memorial Trust in 1999. | |
| Q55: I find the website difficult to follow when it seems to be constantly changing. The 'Latest' page flags up new additions, but often I find extra details and pictures when I go back to a page that has been there a long time. How can readers keep track? | |
| A: This was not meant to be a question for the Enquiries page, I am sure, but it is worth publicising as this comment has been made before. It was to try to answer it that I prepared the 'Site Guide' page, which you may be able to plough through. If you wish, you can also be added to a mailing list to be alerted to major additions [see the Home page for details]. As to the extra bits here and there - these come about by (a) additional scraps of new information that expand an existing text; (b) newly-discovered photographs relevant to existing pages; (c) new links that can now be made from existing pages to give access to fresh relevant material; (d) constant expansion of existing pages and subjects towards the ultimate goal of giving web access to as many Shrine archives as possible. | |
| Q54: What is or was the "London Committee for Walsingham" that is mentioned from time to time in the Mirror? | |
| A: Fr Fynes-Clinton, one of the original Guardians and prominent supporter of the revival, was the pioneer in taking the story of Walsingham to London churches. In the 1920s he founded an informal committee of clergy there, which was called the Walsingham Clergy Fund, as their main object was to supplement Fr Patten's meagre stipend and to enable an assistant priest to be appointed. During the changing circumstances of wartime this was put on a more formal footing in 1943, and became known as the London Committee for Walsingham, chaired by Fr Twisaday, a Guardian. It concentrated on building up Devotions in May and October, when money was raised for the Shrine, on arranging a London mass in July, and on propaganda and advertisement for the Shrine and its activities. It also organised the Priests' Pilgrimages, which relieved the Shrine Office of a great deal of work, and arranged Walsingham meetings in towns and cities in southern England. With this outward development it changed its name to the Central Committee for Walsingham. It was also behind the 1957 Appeal, and the formation of the Friends of Walsingham. Its work was later subsumed into the general reorganisations of Shrine supporters. One of its early appeals is in the archives. | |
| Q53: When the Shrine Church opened in 1938 did all the altars within it have frontals? | |
| A: From Fr Patten's detailed inventories of the Holy House and the Shrine Church it appears that most altars had them and some had several sets. Each altar was 'sponsored', as we would say today, by the Catholic societies and organisations and people, who were then responsible for furnishing them. In addition, Fr Patten issued 'wants' lists and many gifts poured in to fill the gaps. | |
| Q52: Under the arch from Holt Road there is a plaque on the wall recording only the initials of the anonymous donor. Is it permissible to ask now who this was? see also Question 40 below | |
| A: Fifty years later there seems no reason why we should not reveal that that person was Miss Eleanor Mary Buston. She built it in memory of her parents: presumably the third set of initials represents a sibling. click here for photograph | |
| Q51: I am surprised to see that the statue at the well is not of Our Lady of Walsingham. Has it any special significance? | |
| A: The statue is of Our Lady of Sudbury, by James and Lilian Dagless, the local brother and sister who created and decorated many things for Walsingham in the earliest days of the restoration. In his inventory of goods in the new building in 1931 Fr Patten wrote: "Holy Well: Image of Our Lady & Holy Child, from ... ", but his handwriting was almost indecipherable at times, and the next two words have not yet been fathomed out. The statue at Sudbury was installed in 1937. There is another copy at South Creake. | |
A:
The version we have been singing for nearly forty years is the
second one. The first (click here to
read it) was written by Sir William Milner at some time before
the publication of the first
Pilgrims' Manual in 1928, where it appears on page 61. After Fr Patten's
death his successor Fr Colin Stephenson revised it into the form we know
today, and it was first used in 1959. We do not know how Sir William (who
died in 1960) felt about the alterations. |
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Q49:
We have just returned from a visit to the Holy Monastery of St John on
the Greek Island of Patmos. Among the many items on display in the splendid
Museum of Christian artefacts is a silver undated medal simply labelled
'Walsingham County'. There is no other explanation. My
first reaction to this exhibit was that it came from somewhere in the
USA but on reflection, and as it was displayed next to two medals presented
by the Archbishop of Canterbury and one from HM The Queen, I think it
may have been presented to the Monastery by someone from the Shrine of
Our Lady in Walsingham. I would like to find the connection, if any, and
then contact the Abbot to ask him to correct the label. Have
you any information? |
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A:
Most
of the answer to this came soon afterwards when a photograph of the actual
medal was made available. It was instantly recognisable as a modern medal
of an Honorary Guardian. The next question is: whose was it and how did
it get there, as in normal circumstances such a personal item would not
be presented to any museum. Our thanks to Metropolitan Kallistos
of Diokleia, who on his recent visit to Patmos found the answer. The medal
is in a special case at the Museum dedicated to the medals and decorations
given to Archbishop Athenagoras II of Thyateira and Great Britain who
was head of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese in this country from 1963/4
until his death in 1979. These were among the possessions he left to the
monastery after his death. He made several visits to Walsingham and although
it is not certain that he was formally appointed an Honorary Guardian,
it seems clear that the medal was given to him by Fr Colin Stephenson.
Bishop Kallistos has had the label rewritten. |
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A:
When
the Holy House was being built in 1931 Fr Patten appealed for gifts of
these stones. The Holy House altar was constructed "chiefly from
the ruined Priory of Our Lady of Walsingham" together with a few
of the stones from other religious houses. Some were incorporated into
the walls of the Holy House, as we see clearly today (Benedictine houses
in the north wall, Augustinian in the south), and others were built into
the chantry of Edward I (dedicated 4 September 1936). Stones continued
to be sent to Walsingham and the rest were used in the Shrine Church high
altar (1938). |
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A:
As in compiling the eventual Bibliography, we could not compete
with superb examples elsewhere. In our opinion there is no better Catholic
and Walsingham-oriented Links page than that of the Forward
in Faith site, compiled by Fr Len Black. |
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A:
Yes. The view at the moment is that it is vital to get Fr Patten's restoration
recorded as far as possible in this form - his lifetime is the real timescale.
In most classes of document the web is expected to cover up to about 1960:
there are obvious copyright and personal issues to consider when one gets
nearer to the present day. One exception is the Walsingham Review,
from which we hope to put extracts on this site for many years after that.
As to medieval Walsingham, we obviously have no archives of the period
but we shall be listing the whereabouts of such as survive in places like
the British Library and The National Archives (formerly The Public Record
Office), and any other material that is known, as well as a bibliography
and accounts of archaeological research. At present on this site there
are pages covering the early Walsingham
Ballads, and photographs of a Priory
deed (1537) owned by the Shrine. Following requests we
are now raising the priority of the medieval period, and work has started
on locating and studying surviving documents: transcripts of the core
documents will appear in a medieval section of this site. And if copyright
issues can be settled, it is hoped to complement our own work with that
of John Dickinson, a name that will be well known to any student of medieval
Walsingham. |
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Q45:
Do
you know who the deacons of honour were who carried Our Lady in the Translation
procession and whose faces are so familiar to us from the
photograph of the procession leaving from the parish church? |
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A:
We know two. The one nearest the camera is Fr Frank Harwood,
curate of Radwinter, Essex, who led many pilgrimages to Walsingham from
Oakworth and from Radwinter (where he was later incumbent). The one visible
at the back is Fr Frank Burnett. He was a curate at St Peter Parmengate
and St Julian's in Norwich, and died when the hospital ship HMS Barham
was sunk by enemy action in the Second War. He contributed articles to
Our Lady's Mirror about a chaplain's life at sea during the war.
If anyone can identify the third, and knows who the fourth was - not shown
in this picture - please contact
the archivist. We also know now that the server on the right looking
back at the procession is Leslie Gray Fisher, onetime General Secretary
of the Catholic League and wearing here the collar of the Fraternity of
Our Lady de Salve Regina, a parish guild of St Magnus the Martyr. |
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A:
No,
but his life was so linked with and almost predestined for Walsingham
that one might well have thought so. His home was Torquay, but
in the 1940s Fr Patten encouraged him to use his vestment-making talents
in the service of the Shrine: his superb skill in this was eventually
well known far beyond Walsingham. The archives show that as far back as
the 1950s Fr Patten had it in mind that Richard should come and manage
the Shrine Shop, although this did not happen until Richard's family business
closed in 1972 and he was able to move to Walsingham. Fr Lingwood was
indeed the 'local boy', but left Walsingham in 1956 to become vicar of
Barton, a village just outside Torquay - thus the friendship. Richard
retired from the Shop in 1988 but continued as a server, frequently MC,
in the Shrine. Eventually he moved to the Sue Ryder Home at the old vicarage,
and died there in 2003 at the age of 91. He is buried in St Mary's churchyard. |
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A:
The
west front, with the porch through which we enter, is the one side that
is as it was in 1931. Once inside, both sides have been extended with
cloisters, and the east end was extended in 1937-8 when the Shrine Church
was built. In the tiles on the floor just beyond the Holy House there
is a line of writing across the width of the church showing where the
1931 building ended. see
also Question 29 below |
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A:
These
are called hatchments, and old ones can be seen in many parish churches.
In past centuries when a person entitled to bear arms died, a hatchment
with his or her coat of arms on it - following heraldic rules - was hung
outside the residence for up to a year and then hung permanently in the
parish church. This practice continued in some places into the twentieth
century. The hatchments in the Shrine Church were put up to commemorate
some of the early Guardians. With good eyesight one can make out the surname
and the dates, which are the dates of their time as Guardians: hence many
start with 1931. |
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A:
Yes,
but easier in some combinations of the lighting. They are the likenesses
of six people intimately concerned with the founding of the modern Shrine
and the restoration of Anglican pilgrimage: Fr Patten, Sir William Milner,
Bishop O'Rorke, Fr Lingwood, Mother Sarah and William Frary. A head was
made of the reigning monarch at the time of the building - Edward VIII
- but was never used because of his Abdication. |
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A:
The
gate was part of the whole left-side extension to the Hospice [now called
Stella Maris House] and joined the two accommodation buildings. The extension
was finished and in use in 1956, and the final part of the project - the
gate - was completed soon afterwards, in 1957.
see also Question 52 above |
|
A:
Yes,
but Archbishop Michael Ramsey preached at the National Pilgrimage
two years earlier in 1978, after his retirement. |
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A:
The
Oxford English Dictionary gives its first appearance c.1878 in
Gerard Manley Hopkins' poem, The Loss of the Eurydice*,
but its origins go back much further. The Milky Way galaxy was known
to medieval pilgrims as the Walsingham Way because as they saw it in the
night sky it seemed to point towards Walsingham, indicating the right
road. In the Hales and Furnivall edition of Bishop Percy's Folio Manuscript
of Ballads and Romances (1868), they quote "The Milky Way pointed
directly to the house of the Virgin, in order to guide pilgrims on their
road; hence it is called the Walsingham Way, which had its counterpart
on earth in the broad way which led through Norfolk." Apart from
its familiar uses in our Walsingham context, it occasionally appears in
other literature as an alternative title for the Milky Way. [*"A starlight-wender of ours would say The marvellous Milk was Walsingham Way"] |
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A:
His own autobiography was published in 1972 (Merrily
on High, DLT; ISBN 0 232 51182 9), two years after his Walsingham
Way, a biography of Fr Patten, his predecessor. The only other biographical
material we know of is the appreciation written in the Walsingham
Review in 1973 after his death by Fr Charles Smith, reprinted in
Fr Peter Cobb's Walsingham (1990). |
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A:
The
property known as Bunn's garage was acquired by the Shrine in 1987. The
oldest part of the building is a medieval timber-framed structure, which
is important historically. At the time they acquired it the Guardians
were beginning to realise that while the number of pilgrims was rapidly
increasing, fewer people living in the village were able to take in pilgrims
as in the past. They had to look to providing more accommodation in the
Shrine's own property, as we now see brought to fruition twenty years
later, with the exciting prospect of more to come. |
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A:
In 1936 Fr Patten wrote in Our Lady's Mirror (Summer
Number) : "The Chapel is 23 feet 6 inches long by 12 feet 11 inches
wide, the same size as the original Holy House, which was built in 1061
in the reign of St Edward the Confessor." |
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A:
It
was given up in 1973. From the Walsingham Review, June 1973:
"For some years now it has been almost impossible to keep pace with
the demand for scapulars and the Guardians have decided that this should
now be replaced by a pin badge of simple design. This is being put in
hand and badges will be made available as soon as the problems of design
and manufacture have been worked out. In medieval times the scapular was
a symbol of the monastic obligation to the religious life and was never
to be removed; so those who prefer to wear it close to their skin must
take care!" Occasionally the archives here receive a
scapular from the relatives of a deceased member of the Society. There
are several in our collection, as well as examples of the pin badges.
They were always pale blue - larger (about 3" X 4") in later
years. Until 1960 they were purchased from Burns & Oates, the picture
of Our Lady then being sewn to one side by the Shrine staff before being
sent for presentation by the Cell Superior. |
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A:
These
two separately-asked questions are taken together because they are related.
I don't know where the phrase came from but I think it's a muddling of
the status of the "Honorary Guardians", of whom Mervyn Stockwood
was one. In 1946 the constitution of the Guardians was amended to include
a number of Honorary Guardians who by their interest and expertise could
advise the Guardians in particular matters while not having the responsibilities
of serving on the full body. Some of these have been bishops - e.g. Mervyn
Stockwood, Keith Ackerman; but so have many full Guardians - e.g. Mowbray
O'Rorke, Gerald Vernon, John Klyberg, David Hope. All of these named could
be described as episcopal Guardians, with a small 'e'. There is also a
category of Guardian Emeritus, also instituted in 1946, which can be bestowed
on retiring Guardians. |
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A:
The
Guardians had no alternative but to close the Home in 1977. Changes in
welfare service provision made a home such as this no longer viable, or
needed. It then became a popular Bed & Breakfast establishment, but
is now a private house. |
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A:
In 1965. The Guild of All Souls had been trying without success to find
a site for a chantry chapel since 1873. When this one was chosen, the
foundation stone was laid in June by the Bishop of Exeter, and the finished
chapel consecrated by the Bishop of Fond du Lac in October. The architect
was Laurence King, who was also Warden of the Guild at that time. In 1977
a chantry priest was appointed by the Guild. |
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A:
In
1968. The first Refectory was in what is now known as the Pilgrims' Hall,
but by the 1960s the increasing number of pilgrims necessitated the building
of a new kitchen and refectory, which was situated at the top of the garden.
In turn that became outdated, and the present Refectory was opened in
2001. |
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A:
Fr
Patten had wished that after his death a recumbent effigy of himself be
placed on the Gospel side of the High Altar. As the Shrine church did
not seem large enough, it was decided to build a cloister along one side
(the liturgical north) of the Holy House, and this was completed in 1964.
The effigy is there, at the top of the well. This cloister gave such a
sense of space and light that another was built on the opposite side,
in 1972, to mark the Golden Jubilee [of the setting-up of the Shrine in
the parish church]. see
also Question 43 above |
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A:
The
picture, painted by Clifford Pember, was destroyed along with everything
else in the disastrous fire of July 14th 1961. |
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A:
The
names of two living members come to mind straightaway. The Duchess of
Kent came to open St Joseph's Wing in 1985, and Princess Alexandra to
open the new refectory in 2001. The Duchess was known to be a pilgrim,
and attended the National Pilgrimage in 1980. A less well-known figure
was Princess Marie Louise (died 1957), a granddaughter of Queen Victoria.
She visited as a pilgrim frequently before the War. She claimed to be
"the first of our family to visit Walsingham since Henry VIII".
Prince Charles made a private visit in 2002. Princess
Margaret made a private visit while Fr Colin Stephenson was Administrator
- the Shrine was closed for the occasion. |
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A:
There
had been interest from parishes in other countries from the beginning
of the restoration, particularly in Australia, Africa and America, but
the first specific mention of visits in Our Lady's Mirror is
in the 1929 Spring/Summer number: "Priests from
America are beginning to find their way to Walsingham, one conducting
a weekend pilgrimage for Holy Cross, St Pancras, and two visiting with
pilgrims from Yorkshire." |
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A:
October 4th 1985. There are photographs taken
on the day in the Review of December 1985. It was opened by the
Duchess of Kent, who had previously visited the Shrine on several occasions. |
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A:
Fr Colin Stephenson's Walsingham Way contains the most
material on Fr Patten's life published so far. Fr John Barnes, vicar of
Walsingham 1977-89, wrote a short life for the CLA's Oxford Prophets Series
(number 5) in 1983: this ran into several editions under other imprints.
Fr Peter Cobb contributed the entry for him in the New Dictionary
of National Biography. The important news is that a major biography
is in preparation by Michael Yelton, the well-known writer on twentieth-century
Anglo-Catholic history, whose most recent work, Anglican Papalism,
was published in 2005. This is now available
(price £20; ISBN 1 85311 753 6). |
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A:
We do not know - yet. If anyone can give any information, please contact
the archivist. He is referred to three times in Fr Colin Stephenson's
Walsingham Way, but not in connection with his role at the Shrine.
Surprisingly there is no full obituary of him in the appropriate Our
Lady's Mirror, although it must be added that the lives of many of
the Guardians passed without obituaries being printed in the Walsingham
journals. |
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A:
We
have not found anything, although someone thinks that he wrote a piece
for a Foreword to a guide book, or similar. The 1959 edition
of Donald Hole's book, brought up-to-date by Fr Colin Stephenson - England's
Nazareth: A History of the Holy Shrine of Our Lady of Walsingham (1939)
- has its Foreword by John Betjeman. Bishops Mervyn Stockwood and Eric
Kemp contributed Forewords to other editions. He included a five-minute
section about Walsingham in his 1974 television programme 'A Passion for
Churches'. |
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A:
In October 1964. It had opened in 1857. After several mentions of the
threat of closure in previous copies of the Review, finally in
the edition of December 1964 (no. 14) the Administrator (Fr Colin Stephenson)
wrote: "Mr Beeching has had his way: the last train to Walsingham
has rattled away. This does make life a little difficult both for those
who live here and for visitors. But one can still get to the Shrine. Buses
now run from Norwich and from Dereham, and current time-tables can always
be obtained from the Shrine Office. It seems a topsy-turvy kind of progress
which enables man to shoot round the world in a few minutes when it now
takes two hours to cover the twenty odd miles from the nearest main-line
station!" |
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A:
I
can find no mention of this in the Walsingham Reviews of the
time, and it was probably too small a detail of Walsingham life to be
noted there in any case. I don't know quite what the relics would have
been - perhaps some of the many relics already given to Fr Patten in the
past? If anyone can shed any light on this, please contact
the archivist. Oct 2007 A priest has responded to this: "When
I was vicar of a parish in Birmingham we had a document dated early 1950s
indicating
that the relic under the altar stone in our High Altar was of S. Vincent
and had been taken from the Shrine relic of the same saint by Fr Patten.
I
seem to remember that he had signed the document. When I was a young priest
in the 1970s older clerics told me that Fr Patten distributed relics in
the same way to other parishes." Thus the story may well be true
even though your date of 1961 is after Fr Patten's death. Perhaps it had
been in the church's possession already, before the damage, and survived
it. |
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Q19:
I'm interested in the artists who have decorated the Shrine Church. The
name of Enid Chadwick is mentioned a lot, and the name Anthony Baynes
was mentioned in an earlier answer on this page. Were they employed to
work at the Shrine, or commissioned? Did they have a connection with the
Shrine already before they did the painting work? |
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A:
Enid Chadwick, who died in 1987, had lived in Walsingham
for over fifty years, and her artistic work can still be seen all around
the Shrine church and in numerous Shrine publications, many in print today.
Her famous map appeared in the first Mirror of 1935, soon after
she came to Walsingham, and is now on this website (click
here). From Fr Charles Smith's obituary for her in the Review
after her death: "She had completely identified herself with
all that [Walsingham] stands for, and it is difficult to think of it without
her. She came here from Brighton in 1934 [having studied at Brighton School
of Art]. ... She could not have foreseen the next fifty years, the way
in which she would become completely identified with the Shrine church,
but she had just those abilities that Fr Patten could use. ... Enid's
painting and her personal style have made this Shrine Church what it is,
and her mark is everywhere. The reliquary of S Vincent may be modelled
on that of S Ursula in Bruges, but it was Enid who conceived the designs
and the heraldry which ornament it. The mysteries of the faith, the lives
and legends of the saints are set before us in a way all can understand.
... Her decoration is direct, and full of devotion; it may be derivative,
but it has passed through the mind and hands of someone we all knew who
had dedicated herself to the Shrine and its witness, and that witness
will speak to many for years to come." Anthony Baynes
painted at least a few pictures in the Shrine chapels, but we seem to
know little about him or his work. If anyone can tell us more about him
please contact the archivist.
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A:
In
1964. It had been owned by Sir William
Milner (1893-1960), the Shrine's greatest benefactor, and was designed
by his architect partner Bernard Craze, who was also the architect of
the Shrine. Sir William bequeathed Parcevall Hall to the Shrine. The diocese
of Bradford continues to maintain it as a retreat centre. The beautiful
gardens that he created there are open to the general public. (The
gardens' website is currently unavailable.) |
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Q17:
I am interested in Fr Baverstock, whose picture
is in the Guardians' Gallery. I thought that there were two brothers,
both priests and Guardians. |
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A:
This photograph is of Fr Alban Baverstock, vicar of Hinton Martel, who
was one of the original Guardians appointed in 1931. He died in 1950.
He had a brother, Fr Francis Baverstock, vicar of Holy Cross, St Pancras,
under whom Fr Patten served his title. He was an Honorary Guardian. The
Baverstock family lived near, and worshipped at, St Alban's, Holborn,
in the time of Fr Stanton. |
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A:
The
weekend chose itself in that it is the anniversary of the blessing of
the new Pilgrimage Church (the core of what we know today). The Holy House
and its covering outer chapel were completed in 1931, and the new nave
and chapels were blessed by Bishop O'Rorke in the presence of a large
crowd of pilgrims on Whit Monday, June 6th, 1938. After that the great
'National'*, as it came later to be known, was held annually
on Whit Monday. When in 1971 the 'late May Bank Holiday' was fixed on
the last Monday in May, which does not necessarily coincide with Whitsuntide,
the National's date then had to be attached to the secular holiday. It
has been held at that time every year except in 2001, when it had to be
cancelled because of the Foot & Mouth crisis, and in 2002 when it
was moved to the first weekend in June. This was in line with all national
May bank holiday events that year which were transferred so that people
could have two consecutive holiday days, the second being given to mark
the Queen's Golden Jubilee celebrations. It was also transferred
in 1982 so as not to conflict with the Pope's visit to England, and was
held on August Bank Holiday, August 30th. *The use of the word 'National' started in 1959 when the Master (later Earl) of Lauderdale, then President of the Church Union and also a Guardian, wrote to the Church Times urging people to join a pilgrimage on Whit Monday 1959 which he described as the "first National Pilgrimage in the history of the Church of England to the Shrine of the Incarnation at Walsingham." The 'Centenary Pilgrimage' in 1933, to celebrate the centenary of the Oxford Movement, was advertised at the time as a National Pilgrimage with that specific intention, but that was well before the idea of annual pilgrimages for all was thought of. |
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Q15:
The
April 1926 number of OLM mentions property
in the High Street "between the Abbey Gateway and the Church"
purchased by the Shrine as a future pilgrim hostel - the Hospice of SS
Michael and George - and then in Spring 1931
we read that it is to close. Where was it, and how could any building
location be usefully described as being between the Abbey Gateway and
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I've
been waiting for this question to be asked, and have been trying hard
to find the answer myself before it arose. I haven't yet puzzled it out.
When I was in Walsingham recently I made strenuous enquiries, but even
those who have lived longest in the village and knew Fr Patten well, drew
a blank. There will of course be an answer one day, when I have time to
study ancillary records relating to the village, but for now I invite
anyone who has ideas - or better still actual knowledge, or can ask someone
who might - to let us know by contacting
me. I feel that there ought to be a small prize for this one. We
now have the answer. In OLM Autumn Number 1953 we read:
"The new Hostel for those at work from S Hilary's is in occupation.
The house is situated in the High Street and several years ago belonged
to us, and was known as SS. Michael and George. Before that in pre-reformation
days it was part of a pilgrim hostel and known as the Dower." We
know for certain that this hostel (run by Fred and Pearl Shepherd, parents
of John) was on the west side of the High Street: it is now known as "Shields".
A few doors down from "Shields" is a property called "Dow
House", and this may be where the word "Dower" has come
in. This hostel could indeed be described as being between the Abbey Gateway
and the Church, but so could dozens of others, and we had assumed (wrongly
of course) that it was on the same side as the Gateway... |
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Viscount
Halifax (1839-1934, father of the statesman the 1st Earl of Halifax) was
one of the first Guardians of the Shrine, and supported it in many ways
although he never visited it. (Given his age, this was hardly surprising.)
His two daughters were regular pilgrims. In
1933 he had an altar pavilion built for a single Anglo-Catholic Congress
High Mass at Hickleton, his family seat near Doncaster. Afterwards he
presented it to the Shrine as an outside altar, where it was used until
2004. Click here to go to photographs and history.
By 1960 it had fallen severely into disrepair and was given a major
refurbishment in that year. It has now been replaced by the Altar of The
Mysteries of Light, details
of which can be found on the main Shrine site. |
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A barn on the site was converted in the 1930s into the first Pilgrim Refectory.
Before this the barn had been used as a Friends' Meeting House, and later
as a Salvation Army Hall. Perhaps this is the origin of what you have
heard. |
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Although much of the painting in the Shrine is indeed by Enid Chadwick,
it was Anthony Baynes who painted this picture. I am going to Walsingham
at the end of October and will find out what I can. All I
could do on my visit was to confirm the minor differences between published
pictures in the 1960s, and now. My own opinion is that in the original
painting the angels' wings were thought to be too close behind Our Lord,
distorting His image, so part was redone. I am still making enquiries.
(Meanwhile, if anyone knows anything more about it, please
contact the archivist.) |
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Q11:
Looking at the pictures of the early
pilgrimage groups posing in the Vicarage garden, with Fr Patten, I
would like to know where the Vicarage was, and does it still exist? |
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The Vicarage is currently part of Sue Ryder Care*. Leave the village past
the Shrine, with Knight Street on the left, and go up the hill - and you
will see it across the fields from the road (the entrance is on Scarborough
Road, the road to Great Walsingham). It was also the home of the Sanctuary
School, which will feature in later extracts from Our Lady's Mirror.
In due course a page on this website will give a short history of the
house. The house is no longer a Sue Ryder Home. It is at present
(January 2007) shut up and empty and the residents have been moved elsewhere:
three of them have died since moving. The property is now up for sale
at over £1m. *The Sue Ryder Walsingham
websites (the Care Home and the Retreat House) have been left abandoned
on the web. March 2007: It has just been sold,
but there is a change from that previously announced. It has now been
bought by developers to be converted into eleven holiday flatlets. |
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The
word 'hospice' originally meant a place of hospitality, a hostel or refuge,
especially one kept by religious, and was therefore a very suitable description
for the early pilgrim accommodation when the Shrine was set up. The later
part of the twentieth century saw the emergence and growth of the nationwide
hospice movement, where the word came to mean a place for the tending
of the terminally ill. The Stella Maris Hospice was renamed Stella Maris
House in 1993. |
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Q9:
When
did Fr Patten set up the image in the parish church, before the Shrine
church was built? I know that the statue was taken to the new Shrine on
October 15th 1931, and I have always thought that the restoration started
ten years before that. But I have come across a leaflet published by the
Shrine Office in 1972 that says "1922 Statue of Our Lady of Walsingham
placed in the parish church". |
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A: The sequence of events was as follows: in 1921 a statue was carved, copied from the figure on the twelfth century priory seal; on 6 July 1922 it was blessed and installed in its permanent place in the Guilds Chapel in the parish church; on 15 October 1931 it was translated to its home in the new Shrine church. Fr Patten was always very keen to use the earlier year - 1921 - when dating the restoration in anything he wrote about the Shrine, even verging on the misleading in some of his statements. He had indeed in many senses begun the restoration in that year, almost as soon as he became vicar; but 6 July 1922 marks the deliberate setting-up of a shrine in Walsingham after its removal in 1538. The leaflet you refer to - entitled 'Walsingham Jubilee 1922-1972' - was published to support the appeal for the building of the South Cloister, and perhaps its authors used the date best suited to the timescale. Similarly, the date of the dissolution is sometimes loosely quoted as 1537, sometimes 1538. The events started in Walsingham in 1537, leading to the execution of the sub-prior and a villager in May of that year. The prior and canons surrendered in August 1538; the image had been taken away at some time between these two dates, probably in July 1538. See also Fr Patten's Calendar in Our Lady's Mirror, Winter 1933 |
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On Whit Sunday 1944 the Orthodox Chapel of Theotokos was consecrated by
Bishop Sava of Grodno (the Orthodox Chaplain General of the Polish forces
in this country). Some references give the actual day as Whit
Monday, but it is referred to as Sunday in OLM. At that time Walsingham
had just been again put into a wartime 'banned' area, so no pilgrimages
were possible from outside East Anglia. We assume that some Orthodox managed
to attend. |
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Fr Kingdon, well known as the
vicar of St John's, Isle of Dogs, was one of the original Guardians, from1931
to 1949, and a Guardian Emeritus until his death in 1955. We have not
yet found out where he was buried (and if anyone can help, please contact
the archivist). |
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A: from
Fr Peter Cobb's book, 'Walsingham' (Bristol 1990), page 86: The Guardians' distinctive insignia only gradually evolved. The blue mantles were first worn in November 1938; their stars were struck in 1947. The Master's silver gilt chain was presented by Fr Fynes-Clinton in October 1933. see Our Lady's Mirror 1933 |
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A: This
confusion is the result of seeing history unfold too slowly through the
medium of the Mirror. The extracts have reached 1930 and at this
time the Shrine is in the parish church: Fr Patten was vicar of Walsingham.
In the next few issues we see the gradual building of what we now know
as the Shrine church, culminating in Fr Patten's descriptions in the Autumn
Number 1931 of the translation of the statue from the parish church to
its own Holy House within the Shrine church. We shall be celebrating the
seventy-fifth anniversary of this event next year [2006] during the weekend
of October 14th and 15th. For an outline history see the Shrine's main
website page, 'The
Story So Far'. The extracts are now complete and the story
can be read in full. |
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A: You
are almost certainly referring to the community of Augustinian canons
(The College of St Augustine) set up by Fr Patten. You will find more
about it in two books: Colin Stephenson, Walsingham Way (London,
1970) and Peter Cobb, Walsingham (Bristol, 1990). The
new (2006) biography of Fr Patten by Michael Yelton, now available, gives
a full history of the College of St Augustine. |
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A: 1980.
He preached at the Pilgrimage, and also visited the Slipper Chapel. |
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A: We
hope in due course to supplement the current listing
of Guardians' names with short biographies, and even photographs. Meanwhile
the best place to find some is in Fr Peter Cobb's book, Walsingham
(Bristol, 1990), where he reproduces many of their obituaries from
the Mirror and Review. More details of those who were
prominent in public life can be found in past editions of public reference
books, and the priests' careers will be in Crockford's. |
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A: from
Our Lady's Mirror, Summer 1936 number: "This season will ever be marked in the annals as the year when the first organised Scottish pilgrimage came to Walsingham since the destruction of the original Holy House. These adventurers, led by Father Joblin of St Michael's, Edinburgh, heard Mass and were blessed at 6 o'clock on Saturday, August 22nd, and after a hurried breakfast boarded the train for their long journey to East Anglia. Other members of the pilgrimage came by road. Arrived before the Sanctuary the weary travellers led by a blue-eyed laddie carrying a votive banner, made their first visit. The whole pilgrimage was a most happy event, and already plans are being set on foot for a second Scottish Visit in 1937." One of the post-war publicity picture booklets has a picture of the Shrine in which the Scottish banner can be seen in a corner. A fuller account of it, from The Scottish Guardian, is on the Parish Pilgrimages page. |
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